<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<rss version="2.0">
  <channel>
    <title>UFO &amp; Time Travel</title>
    <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/</link>
    <description>Be Prepared - Anything is Possible</description>
    <language>en-us</language>           
    <generator>Nucleus CMS v3.24</generator>
    <copyright>Â©</copyright>             
    <category>Weblog</category>
    <docs>http://backend.userland.com/rss</docs>
    <image>
      <url>http://www.ufotimetravel.com//nucleus/nucleus2.gif</url>
      <title>UFO &amp; Time Travel</title>
      <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/</link>
    </image>
    <item>
 <title>Cloned Super Warriors Part 1 of 5</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=331</link>
<description><![CDATA[ATSGUY found this video about super warriors and sent me the link, the guy in the video is a truth seeker, more fuel to the fire.<br />
<div><embed src="http://www.livevideo.com/flvplayer/embed/3570E03A65DC4C4696524DD6492850D1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" quality="high" WIDTH="445" HEIGHT="369" wmode="transparent"></embed><br/><a href="http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/3570E03A65DC4C4696524DD6492850D1/541980/cloned-super-warriors-part-1-o.aspx">Cloned Super Warriors Part 1 of 5</a></div>]]></description>
 <category>Conspiracy</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=331</comments>
 <pubDate>Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:09:37 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Poll: D-Day is here! Now what?!!</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=330</link>
<description><![CDATA[There is a poll up on the Open Minds Forum (where John Leer and other ex-ATS members have gone), where this question is posed: "UFOs over every major city appear en-masse - what do you do?!"<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Hi there!<br />
<br />
<br />
Please would you help us compile research into how society and individuals would react under the extraordinary circumstances of 'Disclosure'. we had a tremendous response from our members to the recent 'How many OM members have seen a UFO' - Kudos everyone! Now let's take this one step further...<br />
<br />
OK - Let's assume Disclosure Day is upon us!<br />
<br />
UFO sightings have gone through the roof over the last 18 months - we saw the wave begin right here on OMF, with the 'SERPO' disclosures leading the way to new paradigms and thinking 'out of the box'. Since then, UFO reports and Disclosure initiatives have snowballed to the incredible and most significant 'show' and rise in profile wrt UFO awareness / consciousness in Human history - never before witnessed.<br />
<br />
UFO's are at an all-time 'high' in the MS media:<br />
<br />
Only a few days ago - a major report from the UK. Police heli-pilots involved (and presumably visually recorded!) in a 'near miss' with a UFO. - Click for - BBC REPORT.<br />
<br />
OMF predicted these kind of events over a year ago - based on the 'significant' wheat extracted from the 'plausible deniable 'chaff' coming from our various and highly credible International sources / intel networks / consultants.<br />
<br />
Undoubtedly we really ARE witnessing major Disclosure related events leading to 'D-Day' - the undeniable proof of a well planned and thousands of years old co-ordinated final 'Show'. The biggest leap in Human evolution - since our genes were originally programmed by our Handlers / Creators.<br />
<br />
But will we be emerging from our terrestrial / material consciousness to face a Wonderful and Prosperous new dawn for Earth? Or entering our worst nightmare?<br />
<br />
Can we handle the 'Truth'? Are we ready? Are YOU?!<br />
<br />
What would you do? How would you react?<br />
<br />
Try and think clearly about what you would do - if your answer does not appear above - what is your answer?<br />
<br />
You can vote for up to 4 options.<br />
<br />
(Please DO post this poll/link to as many 'like-minded' people/websites as you know - let's try and get as many people to vote as possible - that way we can compile perhaps the largest database / response / poll ever conducted. 8-) )</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=general&amp;action=display&amp;thread=3081">Open Minds Forum Disclosure Poll</a><br />
Bill "the Doctor"]]></description>
 <category>Research</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=330</comments>
 <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:06:52 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Project Camelot: Futuretalk II: A Second Conversation with Michael St Clair in Montreux, Switzerland in May 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=329</link>
<description><![CDATA[Here is the latest:<br />
<blockquote><br />
<a href="http://projectcamelot.net/michael_st_clair.html">http://projectcamelot.net/michael_st_clair.html</a><br />
After the initial success of our Futuretalk with David Wilcock, we decided to continue our Futuretalks as a series of conversations - not interviews - with people who have something important to say.<br />
<br />
A Futuretalk with Michael St Clair seemed to be an excellent next step. Michael, as those of you will know who are already familiar with our first interview with him at Chillion Castle in Switzerland, is a fascinating futurist and metaphysician as well as a famed astrologer.<br />
<br />
Michael has been thinking about the future in a multitude of ways for many years, has written several important and well-received books, and recently has re-entered the world of banking to advise private clients with an eye to the coming changes in world economies and ways of doing business.<br />
<br />
We cover the whole range from safe spaces (which Michael prefers to call radiant zones), to what might be happening and what one should consider preparing for in the future, coming bank failures, possible geopolitical events that could change our lives, and other concerns.<br />
<br />
Michael has spent several years viewing the scenarios - both positive and negative - that one might need to consider in the years ahead. He shares his thoughts and his own personal vision, as well as some key points that everyone should keep in mind in the coming days.<br />
<br />
To contact Bill Ryan or Kerry Cassidy, please e-mail us at support@projectcamelot.org. </blockquote><br />
<br />
<b>Part 1</b><br />
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2viGohhiYkQ&hl=en&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2viGohhiYkQ&hl=en&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />
<br />
<b>Part 2</b><br />
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Vp7gegPMJUc&hl=en&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Vp7gegPMJUc&hl=en&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=329</comments>
 <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:45:09 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Prophet Yahweh talks about Mass landing/Fly over</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=328</link>
<description><![CDATA[About 2 weeks ago from today an account on youtube by the name of UfoTVNews was created. And on June 04, 2008 this video was added, it is Prophet Yahweh talking about some of the amazing things that are going to be happening!<br />
<br />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOuA_CSeeus<br />
<br />
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pOuA_CSeeus&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pOuA_CSeeus&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br />
<br />
At 40 sec in he says this:<br />
<br />
<b> <br />
"I receive telepathic messages and dreams and visions from these space beings. And they tell me that they are preparing to intervene into the affairs of the world, and let themselves be seen. They've explained to me how they are going to do it. <i>They are going to do fly byes in major cities</i>. And let ufo tv news film them.Also after they get started with appearing like that they are going to start landing on American soil!"  </b><br />
<br />
<br />
]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=328</comments>
 <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:54:07 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>OBAMA &amp; CLINTON WITH BILDERBERG GROUP NOW! - JUNE 6, 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=327</link>
<description><![CDATA[ATSDECK just wrote an article covering the meeting which he was able to get a drive-by snapshot, for more info read the article at <a href="http://www.atsdeck.com/">http://www.atsdeck.com/</a>.<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20080606-b-berg-driveby-large.jpg">BS</a>]]></description>
 <category>Conspiracy</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=327</comments>
 <pubDate>Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:23:06 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>2012: The Year The Internet Ends</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=326</link>
<description><![CDATA[although this doesn't really deal with ufotimetravel...it is as important!<br />
<br />
this video shows something that could come to effect all of us, including this site! How will people get their information, the internet will it be controlled?<br />
<br />
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/A2XPiqhN_Ns&rel=0&color1=0x000000&color2=0x222222"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/A2XPiqhN_Ns&rel=0&color1=0x000000&color2=0x222222" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
<br />
http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality<br />
<br />
"06/01/2008 - Every significant Internet provider around the globe is currently in talks with access and content providers to transform the internet into a television-like medium: no more freedom, you pay for a small commercial package of sites you can visit and you'll have to pay for seperate subscriptions for every site that's not in the package.<br />
<br />
Almost all smaller websites/services will disappear over time and multinationals who are used to using big budgets to brute force their content into every media outlet will finally be able to approach the internet in the same way. "]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=326</comments>
 <pubDate>Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:02:21 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Added 2004 MIT Time Travel Convention Images to Gallery</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=325</link>
<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20080531-12972263_fb6e9a8e4a.jpg"></a><br />
Below is the link to the album, there is one or two pics mixed in there from australia, an interesting plaque welcoming time travelers and even has the coords!<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=287">http://www.ufotimetravel.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=287</a>]]></description>
 <category>Images</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=325</comments>
 <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:05:43 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>My Free Energy Inventions</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=321</link>
<description><![CDATA[<b>Here is the video and below the document in jpg format</b><br />
<div id="tmip-22-192594"><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://sclipo.com/outer_flvplayer_new.swf?file=HWF2G2U2F9V6"><param name="wmode" value="transparent"><embed src="http://sclipo.com/outer_flvplayer_new.swf?file=HWF2G2U2F9V6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object></div> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript" src="http://inplay.tubemogul.com/ipembed?v=1&site=22&uid=192594&vid=HWF2G2U2F9V6&key=HWF2G2U2F9V6"></script><br />
<br />
<b>Part 2</b><br />
<div id="tmip-22-194165"><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://sclipo.com/outer_flvplayer_new.swf?file=RWK2Z2Q5U1X8"><param name="wmode" value="transparent"><embed src="http://sclipo.com/outer_flvplayer_new.swf?file=RWK2Z2Q5U1X8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object></div> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript" src="http://inplay.tubemogul.com/ipembed?v=1&site=22&uid=194165&vid=RWK2Z2Q5U1X8&key=RWK2Z2Q5U1X8"></script><br />
The Document below is in jpg format, it is what I submitted to the US patent office for a provisional patent which ran out and now I am giving the ideas away!<br />
<br />
<a href="http://renatocferraz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/flowchart.pdf"><b>PDF Format</b></a><br />
<br />
<br />
I realize in the document below I made a mistake which is that I call a component a "diode" where it should be called a "capacitor"  but hey, i am not a scientist I am just a free thinker!<br />
<object codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" id="-635900038" name="-635900038" classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" align="middle"	height="500" width="100%">		<param name="movie"	value="http://documents.scribd.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=3036606&access_key=key-ga5l5dsw58xb06t4abn&page=&version=1&auto_size=true"> 		<param name="quality" value="high"> 		<param name="play" value="true">		<param name="loop" value="true"> 		<param name="scale" value="showall">		<param name="wmode" value="opaque"> 		<param name="devicefont" value="false">		<param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"> 		<param name="menu" value="true">		<param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"> 		<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"> 		<param name="salign" value="">		<embed src="http://documents.scribd.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=3036606&access_key=key-ga5l5dsw58xb06t4abn&page=&version=1&auto_size=true" quality="high" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" play="true" loop="true" scale="showall" wmode="opaque" devicefont="false" bgcolor="#ffffff" name="-635900038_object" menu="true" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" salign="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" align="middle" height="500" width="100%"></embed>	</object><div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;width:100%"><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/3036606/My-Free-Energy-Invention-totally-green">My Free Energy Invention (totally green)</a> - <a href="http://www.scribd.com/upload">Upload a doc</a></div><div style="display:none"> Read this doc on Scribd: <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/3036606/My-Free-Energy-Invention-totally-green">My Free Energy Invention (totally green)</a> </div>]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=321</comments>
 <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:10:00 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>UFO &amp; Paranormal Show - May 28, 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=324</link>
<description><![CDATA[Please check out our sponsor, <a href="http://www.blogtv.com/People/thx1138" target="_blank">The UFO & Paranormal Show</a> featuring  THX1138 and I will be a guest tonight.<br />
<br />
<b>Here is a message from THX:</b><br />
<img src="http://storage.blogtv.com/Albums/3/136179/site/213200841131.jpg"><br />
<blockquote>Hey guys!<br />
 <br />
Show tonight, I hope you all can make it. Tonight we will be discussing e-mailed experiences, Renato's energy machine, more evidence of time travelers, the mahabharata, and more! please tune in and give your input and feedback, Thanks!<br />
 <br />
THX<br />
</blockquote><br />
]]></description>
 <category>Video</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=324</comments>
 <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:37:28 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>1.267259</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=323</link>
<description><![CDATA[It is the magic number of something, now if I only knew for what!!??<br />
<br />
It might also be 1.267925.....hhhmmm]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=323</comments>
 <pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:03:12 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Reverse Aging Technology Progressing!!</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=322</link>
<description><![CDATA[A friend on myspace named eric posted this comment for me, and some more info could be <a href="http://www.mfoundation.org/sens">found here</a>.<br />
I post this article because I believe reverse aging ties into <a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=68">my sperm theory</a>.<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Sens works to repair and reverse the damage of aging so that we don’t become feeble and break down as we age, and live on indefinitely. This is the biggest cause humanity has ever embarked on. Its been on the bbc, Colbert Report, Barbara Walters Special, the Alex Jones show, TED talks and many more. These cause boxes are an amazing way to show your support so if you do then please do join this right away.<br />
<a href="http://www.causes.com/myspace/causes/71003?recruiter_id=15307996">'SENS (Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence)'!</a><br />
<img src="http://s2.causes.com/photos/Ql/u4/0p/xM/MI/B8/g8aJ.jpg"><br />
Join the SENS cause and get a badge for your profile showing your support.</blockquote>]]></description>
 <category>Research</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=322</comments>
 <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 11:11:28 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - Timedrifter&apos;s Story Not Considered Hoax By AboveTopSecret.com</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=320</link>
<description><![CDATA[It was important for me to allow a day or so to pass before commenting on this item; primarily, because I wanted AboveTopSecret.com time to label timedrifter's story (i.e., the "<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread264063/pg1">If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?</a>" thread) a hoax if this was the reason for banning me.<br />
<br />
Over the sixteen months of the thread's existence at ATS, at no time was it ever closed or suspended and labeled a hoax. There are many times that there were vehement detractors from both regular member, as well as moderators, but at no time was the story/thread labeled a hoax.<br />
<br />
As of today, Tuesday, May 20, the thread has not been labeled a hoax,<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080520-May20-notahoax1.jpg">notahoax</a><br />
<br />
Now, two days after my being banned for a still as yet undetermined reason, the thread is still open, not labeled a hoax, and is still seeing posts being made. Another individual even volunteered after I was banned.<br />
<br />
If, however, our thread mysteriously becomes labeled a "hoax" after I post this article, I've at least saved the above screenshot (which, admittedly only shows up to about 7:00pm on the 19th), as well as a .pdf file of the entire "Recently Discussed Topics" page from the "Skunk Works" section from today, May 20, linked <a href="http://www.savefile.com/files/1563622">here</a>.<br />
<br />
To go a step further, a member at ATS, <b>cindymars</b>, actually addressed my banning in a discussion thread about ATS "issues" entitled, "<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg1">The ATS Issues Thread</a>". The thread was created by the Administrators of ATS (as shown by the Original Poster's ID tag "Topic started on 6-5-2008 @ 11:29 AM <b>by AboveTopSecret.com</b>") to address any concerns members had with how the site was managed.<br />
<br />
cindymars asks the following (bottom of <a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg9">page 9</a>),<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
<i>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 12:42 PM by cindymars</i><br />
<br />
I am a bit afraid to ask this question but why was onthedeck banned. I did not take part of the thread he started but enjoyed reading it and spoke with him thru private emails. I sent him a U2U he never recieved?<br />
<br />
He was always polite and nice. Sorry I am new here but I do not get it. It feels very unfair to me. <br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080520-cindymars-post.jpg">cindymars</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg9">LINK TO SOURCE PAGE</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.savefile.com/files/1563630">LINK TO "ATS ISSUES" THREAD PAGE 9 (.PDF)</a><br />
<br />
In response to cindymars' question, SkepticOverlord (AKA <a href="http://www.theabovenetwork.com/management.html">Bill Irvine, Chief Executive Officer AboveTopSecret.com</a>) explains the following (<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg10">page 10</a>),<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
<i>Originally posted by cindymars</i><br />
<i>I am a bit afraid to ask this question but why was onthedeck banned.</i><br />
<br />
<b>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 01:33 PM by SkepticOverlord</b><br />
We typically don't discuss the reasons for a member's banning, unless there is very-good reason to do so.<br />
<br />
Sorry.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
Another member, <i>Conspiracy Theorist</i>, asks what reasons may exist that would warrant discussing a member's banning, to which SkepticOverlord responds,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
<i>Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist</i><br />
<i>Can you elaborate on what the very good reasons would be?</i><br />
<br />
<b>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:05 PM by SkepticOverlord</b><br />
<b>1)</b> Someone who's constantly posting disruptive 1-liners or off-topic posts in threads, even after being asked not to. It's not really a T&C violation, but it's a disruptive tactic.<br />
<br />
<b>2)</b> Someone for whom we get an inordinate amount of member complaints, but perhaps each complaint is "borderline." This requires an unfair situation where our staff is so occupied with this particular member, the rest of the site doesn't get the appropriate attention.<br />
<br />
<b>3)</b> Someone who is repeatedly posting intense ATS criticism, even after their posts have been addressed.<br />
<br />
<i>Originally posted by endrun</i><br />
<i>What about the folks over at A.K. who say they were banned for no violations, and never received a warning or a notice that they had been banned?</i><br />
<br />
<b>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:05 PM by SkepticOverlord</b><br />
I guarantee you that everyone knows why they've been banned. If they say they don't know, they're either trying to deceive people, or not being honest with themselves. <br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
Except that I am left guessing as to why I was banned, as no warnings or explanation was provided.<br />
 <br />
Member, <i>Conspiracy Theorist</i>, asks for clarification as to why a member's banning might not be discussed (<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg10">page 10</a>),<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
...<br />
<br />
<i>Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist</i><br />
<i>So are you saying in this reply:</i><br />
<br />
<b>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:05 PM by SkepticOverlord</b><br />
1) Someone who's constantly posting disruptive 1-liners or off-topic posts in threads, even after being asked not to. It's not really a T&C violation, but it's a disruptive tactic.<br />
<br />
2) Someone for whom we get an inordinate amount of member complaints, but perhaps each complaint is "borderline." This requires an unfair situation where our staff is so occupied with this particular member, the rest of the site doesn't get the appropriate attention.<br />
<br />
3) Someone who is repeatedly posting intense ATS criticism, even after their posts have been addressed.<br />
<br />
<i>Originally posted by Conspiracy Theorist</i><br />
<i>That it is only in these situations that a members banning will be discussed in public?<br />
<br />
I hope I dont come across as annoying, just like to be clear and thorough.<br />
<br />
CT</i><br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
<b>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:26 PM by SkepticOverlord</b><br />
Oh... I assumed you were referencing the giant-post.<br />
<br />
No... not the same then.<br />
<br />
<b>The reasons for being forthright</b> about the banning of a member would include:<br />
<br />
<b>1)</b> If there was a "public outcry" for the banning of a particularly disruptive member. In these cases, the reason is usually clear, but we inform as to the timing.<br />
<br />
<b>2)</b> If a member was found to be hoaxing the board, we'd inform everyone as to the nature of the hoax.<br />
<br />
<b>3)</b> If a member was inappropriately engaged in some other activity that was deceptive to members.<br />
<br />
Those are but a few examples. <br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
Emphasis mine.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg10">SOURCE PAGE LINK</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080520-skeptic-response1.jpg">skeptic1</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080520-skeptic-response2.jpg">skeptic2</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080520-skeptic-response3.jpg">skeptic3</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353530/pg10">LINK TO SOURCE PAGE</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.savefile.com/files/1563632">LINK TO "ATS ISSUES" THREAD PAGE 10 (.PDF)</a><br />
<br />
My banning has not been openly discussed by the mods or admins at ATS, nor have I received any indication as to why I was banned. Fortunately for timedrifter, however, is the fact that SkepticOverlod did list items that, according to ATS, <b>do not apply</b> to timedrifter, or the thread that was created on his behalf. Namely, the following,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
...<br />
<b>reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:26 PM by SkepticOverlord</b><br />
<br />
<b>2)</b> If a member was found to be hoaxing the board, we'd inform everyone as to the nature of the hoax.<br />
<br />
<b>3)</b> If a member was inappropriately engaged in some other activity that was deceptive to members.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
The reason I felt it important to notate this exchange, and the status of the thread at ATS is that I hope these things, along with everything else that timedrifter and I have offered with regard to his story, might provide further support for the fact that, although far out, timedrifter's experiences may be authentic; or at the very least, worthy of more more consideration.<br />
<br />
And this, despite our being banned, makes it all worth while.<br />
<br />
The story continues...<br />
<br />
<b>UPDATE: I've just been forwarded a link to a website that is discussing <a href="http://www.projectcamelot.org/john_lear.html">John Lear</a>'s banning from AboveTopSecret.com.</b> <br />
<br />
John Lear was apparently also banned from AboveTopSecret.com in January 2008, without warning, and without good cause, according to him. John says that the reason he was provided (i.e., that Lear fabricated some statements) by SkepticOverlord (AKA Bill Irvine) for his banning was misapplied to him, and that another member was responsible for the statements/comments in question. <br />
<br />
Included at that site are messages and correspondences provided by John Lear himself about his banning, statements from Lear about his frustration at what he says is duplicitous behavior on the behalf of ATS's management (primarily, "Springer" AKA Mark Allin and "Skeptic Overlord" AKA Bill Irvine), as well as posts/messages quoted from the site; some of which have been removed from ATS(?).<br />
<br />
Here is an excerpt from a letter John Lear wrote in response to his being banned in January of 2008,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
February 07, 2008<br />
<br />
Letter from John about recent events at ATS (AboveTopSecret.com)<br />
<br />
To all my friends at ATS:<br />
<br />
All I want is for you to know the truth about what happened Monday, January 28, 2008 to cause my being banned at ATS.<br />
<br />
Both Springer (Mark Allin) and Skeptic Overlord (Bill Irvine) who have both been my good friends for more than a year have been much, much less than truthful about what happened that day and why.<br />
<br />
They have been much, much less than truthful in other comments they have made about me in their posts over the past few days.<br />
<br />
No, I didn't voluntarily resign as Conspiracy Master at ATS. And Springer is less than truthful when he says "it was completely his choice and his choice alone." And no I didn't speak or email or contact Mark in any way after January 28.<br />
<br />
There is speculation that I got tired of all the insults and that’s why I left ATS. Nonsense.<br />
<br />
First, the insults didn't bother me, and second,  I never left ATS. It's just that I can't post or send or receive U2's anymore. But I'm still there. Everyday.<br />
<br />
If Mark and Bill are not more forthcoming about why I was banned on the morning of January 28, 2008 (Springer calls it "drama", I call it "truth") then I will post all the emails that Bill sent to me and that I sent to Bill that day. And you can make up your own mind whether or not my banning from ATS was fair or why it even happened...<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#NEWS">SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
In an article at this same site entitled, "The ATS Saga Continues," John Lear writes about his discovery that he had been banned (I can relate ahah),<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
...<br />
<br />
I woke up early Monday morning January 28, 2008 and found that I could not post on ATS. I then checked my U2's and found the following post from Bill Irvine. It concerned my post on page 10 of the " Michael Horns Billy Meier [HOAX] photos from C2C tonight"...<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/The_ATS_Saga_Continues.html">LINK TO "THE ATS SAGA CONTINUES" ARTICLE ON JOHN LEAR</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/What_happened_to_John_Lear_Conspiracy.html">LINK TO ANOTHER ARTICLE, "WHAT HAPPENED TO JOHN LEAR? CONSPIRACY??"</a><br />
<br />
I've read a lot of Lear's posts at ATS, and although his statements have been controversial, he has, as far as I can tell, been forthright and honest. John has also provided ATS with a lot of evidence in the form of photographs and credible witness statements confirming John's background. Springer was himself responsible for <a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread225616/pg1">posting evidence</a> John provided him. <br />
<br />
So why after so much time, and with the administrators of the site on his side, would John be banned without warning, and for a reason that it was determined didn't even apply to him? Why such dismissive treatment of one of the most credible and informed members of ATS; for such a valuable resource such as Lear?  <br />
<br />
There were comments made at the above link that John Lear, as well as another previous member of ATS, attempted to use their popularity to garner support from ATS members and to "hold the site captive,"...or wording to this effect. This is a possibility, but it all really makes one wonder what takes precedence at ATS.<br />
<br />
I understand that John is still friends with the administrators at ATS, and I certainly don't feel any ill will. But, it seems, both of us (as well as a great number of other ex-members) feel that there is a lack of equity, uniformity and forthrightness in the treatment members are receiving there. Our firsthand experience proves this.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=320</comments>
 <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:09:50 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Sunday, May 18, 2008 - I Was Banned From AboveTopSecret.com</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=318</link>
<description><![CDATA[I was banned yesterday, May 17, 2008, from AboveTopSecret.com under my username "OnTheDeck". Unaware that I had been banned, and thinking I was only having log in problems, I created the alternate User Name "atsdeck" to post a message that I was having problems logging in. This is a name (atsdeck) I've used at other sites to make posts, as my introduction to timedrifter and his story, and the bulk of the threads both he and I have created have been at ATS.<br />
<br />
It didn't take long for me to realize that I had been banned. <br />
<br />
Although the reason I was banned has not been explicitly stated, either in a private message to me, or as a post in the most current thread, another moderator suggested it was because I was posting messages from timedrifter, himself a banned member. <br />
<br />
I mentioned in one of my last posts, under the User Name "atsdeck," that I had been posting answers from timedrifter to members in the thread for a while now since he was originally banned (almost a year prior), without receiving any warnings from mods or admins. This is primarily why it was such a shock to me.<br />
<br />
Regardless of the reason I was banned, I have been an active, supportive and prolific member of ATS for almost three years. To be a member of a community for this long, and to be banned without warning - and with no reason given - should send a clear message to anyone considering joining this community, or similar communities in the future. That's some way to reward someone who proved to be a pretty committed member. Not that I'm losing sleep over it...<br />
<br />
The thread in question was one I created on January 23, 2007, entitled, "<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread264063/pg1">If you could ask a time traveler a question what would you ask?</a>" I created the thread on a lark, so folks could ask timedrifter questions about our future/past that he might be able to answer from his experiences. I also thought the thread might help him jog his memory some more.<br />
<br />
The thread, quite unexpectedly, took off and took on a life of its own. The questions from members (and posts from detractors) quickly grew the thread, and I found myself (and timedrifter, himself) putting a lot of time and energy into the thread. It was a task responding to the more vitriolic skeptics of timedrifter's story, but I think we presented our case well, and as a result won over a lot of readers; even thought this wasn't necessarily the intent.<br />
<br />
That thread has been running strong for sixteen months - almost a year and a half(!) from the day it started. And as of today, May 18, 2008, it ranks number three in the "Skunk Works" section with 2,268 Replies; and ranks number four with 66,177 Views. We’re also probably number six or seven with the number of flags.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080518-ATS-3rd in Views - May 18-a.jpg">views</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080518-ATS- 3rd in Replies - May 18-a.jpg">Replies</a><br />
<br />
Now that timedrifter and I have been banned from both AboveTopSecret.com and GodlikeProductions.com, we are going to have to find somewhere else to share our experiences and post our findings. <br />
<br />
Given both of our experiences at the above two sites, I'd say that's a good thing. Given the newness of conspiracy/paranormal message boards, and the direction that two of the majors (and plenty of the minors) have taken, it's clear that we're a ways away from fully realizing the potential of this new medium of idea exchange.<br />
<br />
The Internet is our door to unadulterated, accurate and totally free information and truth. What we have is a good start, but we're not quite there yet. <br />
<br />
Hopefully, we will begin to see more of these types of sites that are able to meet the technical and managerial demands of this venture, without sacrificing content, and without jeopardizing, obstructing, or mishandling the free exchange that we desire take place.<br />
<br />
ATS and GLP (as well as this site, Project Camelot, Project Prove, the other sites linked here, and many more) are showing us a glimpse of what is to come; but I'm confident that where we are headed is going to be so much more. Guess you gotta start somewhere.<br />
<br />
As for ATS, I really enjoyed meeting the folks I've met through that site. There is a great community, and that's what it's all about. We are galvanizing each other; encouraging each other. And this is having a very real affect.<br />
<br />
I'm glad that I was at least able to post some closing comments in the question thread at ATS. I would have hated for it to just "end" without some sort of goodbye. After so much time, I thought that everyone who followed along deserved at least that much.<br />
<br />
Just wanted to make a post and say goodbye to ATS for a while.  I was a very active member at ATS since I signed up in, I think, 2005 (Can't access my stats now, so I'm guessing...). And it's where timedrifter and I first hooked up. It's where I met all of the cool souls that I continue to keep up with on this paranormal/planetary stuff.<br />
<br />
So, to all of the folks who read/followed along at ATS, you're all fantastic. Even the mods who will go unnamed. ahah<br />
<br />
Never forget what this is all about. <br />
<br />
So long, ATS. See you all on the other side...<br />
<br />
Or until...You know...I post another article...<br />
<br />
Peace, <br />
atsdeck (AKA OnTheDeck)]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=318</comments>
 <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:28:01 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Saturday May 17, 2008: ONTHEDECK Banned from abovetopsecret.com</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=319</link>
<description><![CDATA[Without warning or reason ONTHEDECK (aka ATSDECK) was banned from the abovetopsecret.com message boards, the biggest conspiracy website on the net that is a conspiracy within itself with all the non sense actions the moderators seem to take, banning user's for reasons that are usually a mystery which brings us here, if you look at ONTHEDECK's history there he obviously has done nothing wrong and was banned without warning or reason. <br />
<br />
Now what is important here and the conspiracy for the site itself is that people go to this site as a platform to tell their story or experience and the moderators turn around and ban people and they are hypocrites because the skunk works sections is purely speculative or stuff that can not be proven, but to me all the other sections is like one huge skunk works section , The thread was started in the UFO and Alien section and moved over to the skunk works section by the bitch ass moderators there, once this question is addressed at the site they erase the post and ban the members.<br />
<br />
At this point I am becoming more convinced abovetopsecret.com is an information collecting agency that turns around and tries to discredit any whistle blower to maintain the secrets and control, if that is not the case and they are a bunch of little bitches on power trips going around judging people on the fly, then perhaps they are just a bunch of scumbag moderators that are creating bad karma for themselves.<br />
<br />
I just wanted to make sure people are aware to beware of abovetopsecret.com and if you experienced any similar short comings at the site please share them with us, we already have credible sources such as John Lear telling the same type experiences and if you browse the anonymous posts it is usually someone that was banned for no reason telling them to go......................<br />
<br />
I must commend ONTHEDECK for his wisdom, I was angry and reacted and meanwhile he was patient.<br />
<br />
But the moderators at that site are committing what is considered the ultimate crime in the future, <b>BLOCKING</b>,  and they will be brought to justice!!]]></description>
 <category>Conspiracy</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=319</comments>
 <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:11:00 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Thursday, May 15, 2008 - &quot;A film of &apos;time travelers or aliens&apos; see and decide&quot;</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=317</link>
<description><![CDATA[In a thread at abovetopsecret.com created on February 23, 2008, entitled, "<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread336799/pg1">A film of 'time travelers or aliens' see and decide</a>" a poster revisits a close encounter case from 1967 in which film footage may show human-like extraterrestrials the poster suggests could be time travelers.<br />
<br />
Here is an excerpt from an article on the original case, entitled the "Lansing Movie,"<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
17 Feb 1967, about 9:45 PM, Palmer, Massachusetts: Mrs. Stella V. Lansing, a housewife, part-time nurse, and mother of five children, the oldest then in Vietnam, was parked with her car on Old Warren Road, just off Route 32, in the double-row, high-voltage power-line area.  This was about a kilometer east of Palmer Center, away from street lights and houses, alongside Burleigh park, and no more than a kilometer from her home at Thompson Lake.  Earlier this evening she had seen a yellow-orange globe of light near the old cemetery and now hoped to see it again.  She had been puzzled frequently by strange lights in the Palmer area and this time brought a borrowed movie camera.  She was ready.<br />
<br />
Fig. 1.  Sighting Area<br />
<br />
Waiting patiently under a black, starlit sky with the moon nearly half full, she saw three distinct globes of yellow-to-reddish-orange light coming from the southeast, along the power line.  Except for an occasional cricket-like sound they were silent, as low as the power line poles and no more than 20 m from them.  Mrs. Lansing recalls: "They generally glided, sometimes bouncing in a dipping manner, as though riding the crest and ripples of a water wave."  She started filming the approaching objects and was amazed when they suddenly retreated: "They bounced back like a rubber ball on a rubber string."<br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
The resulting movie was first viewed on an old projector, which unfortunately tended to burn the individual frames when the stop-motion lever was held too long on "still".  Lansing evidently captured the zigzag motion by using the single-frame lever, but that's all her photo shows -- a zigzag -- with no unambiguous structural detail.<br />
<br />
The 16 fps sequence, about 4½ sec long, has very low contrast, appearing as a yellow rectangle in the upper-left-hand corner of the projected movie.  In her studies of the film, Lansing had switched to a battery-operated, hand-held viewer, to avoid burning any more frames, and only moving, ghostlike images were apparent.  Months later, a modern projector was purchased.  She recalls: "I had a shock of disbelief as I was finally able to see four beings, two of which were turning their heads and moving their lips as though conversing, and which then appeared to be looking down at me."<br />
<br />
Fig. 2 shows one frame from this 4½ sec sequence.  Fig. 3, sketched by artist Frederick E. Fahdt, assists the reader in locating the three occupants in Fig. 2.  The fourth figure, not visible here, is standing to left in the movie scene.  None appears to be the grey alien type usually reported in close encounters nor, with dark hair, are these the occasional blond "Nordic" types.  Most striking is this veridical human character of the images, even more evident from their animated movements during projection.  Who are these people?  Could they be archeologists from Earth's distant future?  With their casual and non-uniform garb, they look more like university researchers than a military crew.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080515-Fig. 2.  Frame from 8mm movie.jpg">fig 2. from movie</a><br />
FIG. 2<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/2/20080515-Fig. 3 - Artists clarification.jpg">fig 3 - artist rendering</a><br />
FIG. 3<br />
<br />
Lansing's movie was shown informally at the end of the APRO 1971 "Eastern UFO Symposium", where one of the featured speakers was psychiatrist / UFO researcher Berthold E. Schwarz, M.D.  He subsequently visited Mrs. Lansing twice in Palmer on five days of February and April 1971, and studied her further at his New Jersey office during five days of May 1971.  These investigations were usually attended by members of her family or close friends.  Schwarz even enlisted the help of famed telepathist Joseph Dunninger, as a positive check on her veracity.  Schwarz's on-site field trips to Palmer, numerous telephone calls and correspondence, interviews of her associates, and his psychiatric evaluation and continuing interest in this case, are documented for UFO researchers by seven articles in Flying Saucer Review (see Stewart's index).  Dr. Schwarz's conclusions and comments in brief:<br />
<br />
    * Stella Lansing told the truth as she saw it, and was quite modest about it: "These things happen and I don't know why"<br />
    * Lansing had a history of paranormal experiences -- telepathic, precognitive, telekinetic, teleosomatic -- all within the range reported for psi-sensitive people<br />
    * Subjects can be driven into psychosis by our failure to believe them; Lansing was affected by her strange experiences and required hospitalization.  Schwarz clearly emphasizes that these experiences were cause, not result, of her psychosis, which subsequent treatment completely cured<br />
    * Attempts to hypnotically regress Lansing were too traumatic and had to be abandoned<br />
    * Lansing had taken many films and photographs of UFO-like and bizarre, non-UFO-like objects such as described by Ivan T. Sanderson<br />
    * Careful, frame-by-frame analysis is necessary to see some of her photographed objects, which otherwise are overlooked<br />
    * Facts of the case do not support a thoughtography (paranormal exposure) explanation: (1) Ted Serios claimed to produce single-exposures, while Lansing's 4½ sec sequence has many frames of complex movement, (2) Lansing and Schwarz simultaneously filmed anomalous objects on-site in Palmer with separate movie cameras and got consistent results<br />
    * Question: how did Stella Lansing's psychopathology / psychophysiology make her a candidate for UFO interaction?<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.ufohelp.com/Classic%20Sightings/Lansing%20Movie.htm">SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=317</comments>
 <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:01:01 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - Will 2015 Be The Year &quot;They&quot; Arrive?</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=316</link>
<description><![CDATA[In a Youtube video recently posted entitled, "<b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYb-PB6KNCA">UFO Abduction Story!! 2015 The Arrival!! Pt.5</a></b>" a man claiming to be an abductee says that he was shown our future.<br />
<br />
The man says that sometime prior to 2015, that we will "discover" extraterrestrial structures on the moon, proving that intelligent extraterrestrial races exist. The man says that the majority may still not believe or understand the implications of what is found, and that this will necessitate what is to come in 2015.<br />
<br />
The man says that he has been shown that in 2015 there will be what he calls "The Arrival". At this time, all of these extraterrestrial craft will fill the skies (heard this one before?). He says that this event will prompt many on the ground to commit suicide. This same scenario has been described by timedrifter, Michael at Helloearth.info (the Michael Connection), and by other credible abductees who have seen this future scenario.<br />
<br />
These craft, this man says, will leave almost as soon as they had arrived, but the situation on the ground will be changed forever. <br />
<br />
Watch and decide for yourself. If you have been following along with this site, or others with similar forecasts, you really have to ask yourself how you would respond. Hopefully, it is as timedrifter, this man, and many others suggest, and that is with an open mind and heart.<br />
<br />
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hYb-PB6KNCA&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hYb-PB6KNCA&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYb-PB6KNCA">YOUTUBE VIDEO LINK</a><br />
<br />
Here is a message posted at ufoabductee's <a href="http://tw.youtube.com/ufoabductee">main page</a>,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
I've been asked to post my version of what I remember about my abduction. I'm not trying to get famous of this bullshit. Many people say I'm doing this for attention. You'd have to be an idiot to try and get famous from an abduction story. I'm not here to prove shit I'm her to document what happen. Say what you want. I stay away from the topic of religion & God. People seem to judge my by my religious beliefs. I'm a regular guy; I'm probably the last guy in the world you'd think that would be abducted. I will answer your questions if interested. Save your breath with negative comments, waste of your time and mine. Hope to here from more of you.. I WILL BE CLOSING THIS YOUTUBE SITE Sept. 19th, 2008.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
I don't know if the man in the blurred video is "Dean," or if he is "ufoabductee," but the video, given other very similar visions of the future, is fascinating. I haven't watched the other videos, but wanted to get this one up as soon as possible.]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=316</comments>
 <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:56:08 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>UPDATE: Mysterious Universe Podcast has regenerated!</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=295</link>
<description><![CDATA[Almost two months after posting the below announcement, Ben has decided to retire from working on Mysterious Universe after the 100th episode is done.  As of posting, it is on Episode 94.  It's sad to see him leave, but since there have been issues since September that have kept on coming up that have lead to the website and podcast not having new content for long periods of time, it is not a surprise.  He has not shuttered MU completely, as he has opened the door for a new host to come in and take over the show and site.  Hopefully, a new host can be found and everyone likes him or her.  And thanks to Ben for creating the Mysterious Universe experience.  Hopefully he will find time to pop in now and again on the site and podcast.<br />
Bill "the Doctor"<br />
<br />
<blockquote><a href="http://mysteriousuniverse.org"></a><br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/5/20080323-MU1.jpg"></a><br />
The very popular podcast and website Mysterious Universe, hosted by Australian Benjamin Grundy, was down for a week and half.  It was unknown what had happened.  I tried to email one of the messageboard moderators and haven't heard anything back.  Today it relaunched to a new format, and also a new episode christening the regeneration of the site.  As of right now, the messageboards are not back up yet, but once they do, I'll be back as your inside man, or Time Lord.</blockquote>]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=295</comments>
 <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:42:00 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>New David Icke Interview</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=314</link>
<description><![CDATA[On <a href="http://www.MysteriousUniverse.org">MysteriousUniverse.org</a>, a new interview with David Icke is available.<br />
<a href="http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3?http://media.libsyn.com/media/mysteriousuniverse/Muniverse_special08.mp3">LINK TO INTERVIEW</a><br />
Renato has mentioned previous interviews with David Icke on his Radio Show, and seems to jive on some topics with what Renato has mentioned.<br />
<a href="http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/">http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/</a><br />
Bill "the Doctor"]]></description>
 <category>Research</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=314</comments>
 <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:31:00 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Radio Show - May 8, 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=315</link>
<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?host_id=2935">here</a></b> (or click image below!)<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20061218-parental-advisory-explicit-content.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20070114-bg.gif">headset</a><a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20070418-bart.jpg">Bart</a><a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20070510-renato-sm.JPG">null</a><br />
<a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?host_id=2935"><img id="btnTalkShow" border="0" alt="I Have a Talk Show" src="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/images/TalkShow_180x60.gif" / height=50></a><br />
<b>RAW and UNCUT</b><br />
<embed src='http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mediaplayer.swf?displayheight=&file=http://www.blogtalkradio.com%2fufotimetravel%2fplay_list.xml?show_id=193152&autostart=false&shuffle=false&volume=80&corner=rounded&callback=http://www.blogtalkradio.com/FlashPlayerCallback.aspx&width=180&height=152' width='180' height='152' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' quality='high' wmode='transparent' menu='false'></embed><img style="visibility:hidden;width:0px;height:0px;" border=0 width=0 height=0 src="http://counters.gigya.com/wildfire/CIMP/bT*xJmx*PTEyMTA*NzA2MzczODkmcHQ9MTIxMDQ3MDY*MTAwNCZwPTEyMzIwMSZkPSZuPSZnPTE=.jpg" />]]></description>
 <category>Audio Sessions</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=315</comments>
 <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:52:29 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Please Join Us Thursday night 10PM (EST) May 8, 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=313</link>
<description><![CDATA[This Thursday night, May, 8 2008, Please join us this Thursday night for our <b><a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?host_id=2935">Radio SHow</a></b> where we will be discussing some new developments in our research field as well as my story. This Radio show features Live Chat while broadcasting, and you can also call in the show and be a guest by calling:<br />
<br />
<b>Call in number: (718) 664-6576</b><br />
<br />
please feel free to join us <b><a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?host_id=2935">here</a></b> (or click image below!)<br />
<a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20061218-parental-advisory-explicit-content.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20070114-bg.gif">headset</a><a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20070418-bart.jpg">Bart</a><a href="http://www.ufotimetravel.com/media/1/20070510-renato-sm.JPG">null</a><br />
<a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?host_id=2935"><img id="btnTalkShow" border="0" alt="I Have a Talk Show" src="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/images/TalkShow_180x60.gif" / height=50></a><br />
<b>RAW and UNCUT</b>]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=313</comments>
 <pubDate>Tue, 6 May 2008 21:34:58 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Monday, May 5, 2008 - Benjamin Fulford&apos;s &quot;Status Report&quot;</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=312</link>
<description><![CDATA[First, timedrifter (in his article right below mine, entitled, "<b>Project Camelot: John Lear Tells All</b>") is right on to be skeptical about any paranormal sites; especially, abovetopsecret.com and godlikeproductions.com. These are two of the biggest; two of the most "watched"; and two of the most censored conspiracy/ufo/paranormal sites on the net.<br />
<br />
We still enjoy a dialog at abovetopsecret.com with interested and important members, despite the fact that our discussion has been relegated to a speculative (the "Skunk Works") section. <br />
<br />
Timedrifter's experiences focus primarily around a six day missing time/abduction experience for which his family and a family friend were present and can attest, as can the local police precinct to which timedrifter's absence was reported. <br />
<br />
Despite these facts, a moderator oddly still felt it necessary to move timedrifter's threads to the speculative section from the "Aliens & UFOs" section. Speculative discussion of aliens and ufos continue in the "Aliens & UFOs" section at abovetopsecret.com, while timedrifter's extraordinary story languishes in the Skunk Works section. <br />
<br />
This fact hasn't hurt the thread's exposure or popularity, as it is currently in third place in the Skunk Works section for the most thread "responses" and is in fourth place for the number of thread "views". Not that we're keeping track...<br />
<br />
The powers that be are still the powers that be. Until that changes, we will not see much in the way of broad exposure to the truth, save for what folks like <a href="http://projectcamelot.org/nancy_williams.html">Nancy Williams</a>, Dan Burisch, John Lear, Svali, et al. are able to provide us through websites like this, Project Camelot, and other groups who support and endeavor to get the whole truth, and nothing but the truth out to the people.<br />
<br />
Along these lines, Project Camelot shares a status update from Benjamin Fulford from an email correspondence that they received from him,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
<b>4 May</b><br />
<br />
• Benjamin Fulford: epilogue to our <a href="http://projectcamelot.org/benjamin_fulford.html">recent interview</a><br />
<br />
We asked Benjamin Fulford for a status report on the current state of affairs regarding whether there had been any change as a direct result of the public stand he took speaking out on behalf of the Asian Secret Society about the world situation. In answer, he wrote the following in an email dated today:<br />
<br />
For the reaction, you will notice that Asian countries have stopped buying US government bonds. The US secret government has retaliated by <b>artificially raising food and oil prices</b>.<br />
<br />
We are in the middle of World War 3. The US and Israel have been taken over by Nazis and the rest of the world is trying to take them down.<br />
<br />
The reason the society has not started assassinations yet is that the Nazis in the Bush/Clinton administration want any excuse to start all out world war. However, if starvation begins in earnest, there will be assassinations.<br />
<br />
Benjamin Fulford<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
Emphasis mine. Anyone following the food/oil crisis has to realize that there IS NOT CRISIS and that this is being staged. We're being manipulated and the markets are being manipulated. It's fake. Fortunately for us, Benjamin Fulford and his supporters are not.<br />
<br />
<a href="http://projectcamelot.org/whats_new.html">PROJECT CAMELOT SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
Tick tock...]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=312</comments>
 <pubDate>Mon, 5 May 2008 22:01:59 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Project Camelot: John Lear Tells All</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=311</link>
<description><![CDATA[Well, well well, in the opening minutes of (not sure which part, read below) one of the video's, Our friend John Lear talks about how he is banned by <b>Abovetopsecret.com (ATS)</b>. I have been banned 7 times from those cheese balls, if ATS is a goverment info collection agency they are a bunch of suckers cause it is going to back fire and blow up in their faces.<br />
<br />
<b>I think those ATS moderator dudes are women, and they get wet when they ban someone........cheese balls!!!</b><br />
<br />
I will update this article when I am done watching the whole thing.<br />
<b><br />
<a href="http://www.projectcamelot.org/john_lear.html">SOURCE ARTICLE</a></b><br />
<br />
I just realized the video I embedded does not match the one I watch yet I got the code from the same place.<br />
<br />
when I tried to update the link my PC shut off and when I brought it back up, the video changed, cause I used the restore session feature in firefox.<br />
<br />
you blockers (you know who you are) better watch yourselves, If I am close to the truth, lookout punks, I am gonna rule you with fear now........cheese balls!!<br />
<br />
OK, this morning when I posted this article, I was watching the video and it was 1 hour and 13 minutes, and the beginning was different than it is now and it is 1 hour and 16 minutes now (video below)<br />
<b>Part 1</b><br />
They spend a great deal of time covering how cheesy ATS is and that the scam is apparent, something is obviously not right there and the rules and methods of control should be the first indicator, all I know is the thread we created there still lives there but remember it was moved to from the Alien and UFO section to skunk works and I was banned there 7 times for the cheesy reasons and the moderators are continuing a "pen devil" style of control there which I could care less about at this point since this site is getting more hits than the thread is at ATS, the volunteers keep coming, so watch john lear closely, if he is full of shit he deserves an oscar award. <br />
<br />
Also a moderator at ATS added the word "hoax" to the tags at the bottom and other little girl type stuff you will see throughout the thread, especially when you see whole posts removed, I have made a few backups of it before it was "moderated", but whatever of course, the flood gates will open when they open and they will all wash out and be exposed.<br />
<br />
Hear me now, believe me later, girly men at ATS!<br />
<embed id="VideoPlayback" style="width:400px;height:326px" flashvars="" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-1904583671241989001&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> </embed><br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
]]></description>
 <category>Video</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=311</comments>
 <pubDate>Sun, 4 May 2008 10:20:32 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>SUNDAY, APRIL 27, 2008 - MEDIA BLACKOUT ON IRS DEFEAT</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=310</link>
<description><![CDATA[I felt it necessary to make a post about this story, despite the fact that the case took place in 2007. <br />
<br />
The whole thing started as a raid, in 2003, on several businesses owned by Southern Nevada businessman, Robert “Bobby” Kahre. <br />
<br />
The alleged crime? Kahre was simply paying his employees with gold and silver coins instead of with paper money. The IRS expected Kahre to pay taxes on the market value of the coins as indicated in the Federal Reserve system (the value of the coins in U.S. paper dollars). Kahre was paying his employees based upon the face value of the coins and, as well, determined that the face value of the coins fell below the reporting threshold. <br />
<br />
Kahre was obviously correct in his assertion as, after a four month trial, of the 161 federal tax crimes he and 8 other defendants were charged with, all of them were dropped.<br />
<br />
Here are some article excerpts on this case. I'm posting the first article, from liberty-watch.com, in its entirety, as it very clearly and succinctly describes what occurred in this case, and why the citizens under attack were not guilty of any crimes, but how the government actually created this problem when it instituted a "dual" monetary system,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
On a 106-degree May afternoon in 2003, government agents raided several establishments belonging to Southern Nevada businessman Robert “Bobby” Kahre. With guns drawn, officials held more than 20 handcuffed workers in the sun without water as agents collected records and other materials.<br />
<br />
Kahre hadn’t committed a crime. He had upset the Internal Revenue Service by paying his workers based on the face value of gold and silver coins, versus the market value in the Federal Reserve system (the value of the coins in U.S. paper dollars). Even though the coins were in circulation, displayed a face value, and were regulated by Congress, the IRS’s confusing and endless tax code did not determine how to handle these gold and silver coins if used for payroll. The tax code only references dollars. It does not distinguish between coined money and paper money.<br />
<br />
Kahre didn’t opt for the precious metal bullion system without first doing his homework. He consulted monetary experts, engaged in extensive research, and even met with congressmen. Kahre’s conclusion was simple: While the currency in the precious-metal system was greater in value than the currency in the other system, as money and a medium of exchange, the law knows no difference between the face value of both currencies.<br />
<br />
The IRS expected Kahre to report his workers’ earnings based on the coins’ market value in the Federal Reserve system. Instead, he didn’t report or pay anything at all because the face value of the coins fell below the reporting threshold. The IRS alleged that Kahre and the other defendants paid at least $114 million (based on the Federal Reserve system) to workers. The use of these coins in trade is a direct challenge to the fiat money system now in place.<br />
<br />
“Bobby Kahre is the only person in the world I know of with the courage to do that,” said Joel Hansen, a Las Vegas attorney who represented one of the nine defendants in the case.<br />
<br />
While the purpose of the case was to identify the intent of the defendants, the trial that followed tested America’s dual monetary system and further validated that the U.S. greenback is quickly becoming more and more a worthless piece of paper.<br />
<br />
In 1985, Ron Paul and other congressmen challenged our country’s currency system, which was monopolized by Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) — the familiar greenbacks in American wallets. The congressmen successfully pursued the Gold Bullion Coin Act, which required the U.S. government to mint and place gold coins in denominations of $50, $25, $10 and $5 into circulation based on demand. The coins are made of 91.67 percent pure gold.<br />
<br />
The ultimate purpose of the act was to allow Americans to invest in gold. However, it also brought sanity back to this country’s monetary system by establishing a dual system. Instead of the Federal Reserve solely providing the money supply by endlessly printing FRNs, the U.S. government now minted and circulated precious metal coins.<br />
<br />
In the mid-’90s, Kahre began exercising this alternate system. He compensated workers for their labor in the form of these gold and silver coins versus FRNs. The workers calculated their income and tax liability based on the face value of the coins. <br />
<br />
One gold coin with a face value of $50 currently equals $806 in FRNs. If a worker earns a $50 gold coin each week, that person takes home an annual income of $2,600 based on the precious metal system, which is below the income-tax reporting threshold for an employee. However, the value of the coins in FRNs — $41,912 — is not. That’s the basic idea.<br />
<br />
The IRS did not fancy Kahre’s gold-and-silver payroll system, and after seven years of operating his family businesses in this fashion, he and eight others found themselves as defendants in a Las Vegas federal courtroom. Kahre was charged with 109 counts of tax-related crimes, varying from tax evasion to willful failure to file and conspiracy to evade taxes. Fifty-two other counts were divided among the other defendants.<br />
<br />
While the case was about the intent of the defendants, it raised several issues. There was the issue of whether or not Kahre’s workers were considered independent contractors, who are responsible for paying their own taxes, or employees, who have their taxes withheld by their employer each pay period. Then there’s the issue of America’s dual monetary system. If there are two monetary systems, and the value of one system’s currency is greater than the other beyond its face value, what is the standard for determining the value of taxable income? <br />
<br />
No Federal Court of Appeals has ever ruled that the gold coins in question must be reported to the IRS based on FRN market value.<br />
<br />
“The defense showed that the defendants believed in good faith that a Federal Reserve Note is not the standard because Congress created the dual monetary system,” Hansen said. “The defendants believed that gold and silver coins are just as legitimate and legal as our other tender, the FRN.”<br />
<br />
Kahre certainly caught the attention of the IRS. In addition to operating his businesses via the gold-and-silver payroll system, according to testimony at the trial, he helped 35 other contracting companies do the same. <br />
<br />
But even though Kahre and his colleagues followed the dual monetary system mandated by Congress, the IRS didn’t care. To America’s most feared agency, the bottom line was Kahre’s workers weren’t taxed enough for their labor.<br />
<br />
Based partially on cases that pre-dated the 1985 Gold Bullion Coin Act, the judge in the case did not allow defense attorneys to argue that Kahre was justified to pay workers based on the face value of the coins. Based on case law, the court concluded that income had to be calculated based on the FRN fair market value, rather than upon the face value.<br />
<br />
A flaw with some of those cases was that each referred to double-eagle gold coins, which Franklin D. Roosevelt outlawed in 1934. Those coins are no longer in circulation like the coins minted by the U.S. government following the 1985 Act. The double-eagle coins were deemed to be property for tax purposes in those old cases. <br />
<br />
Of course, the judge’s rule was binding upon the parties and was followed by the defense attorneys at the trial. Hansen, under the good faith belief defense, was able to present evidence that his specific client, Alex Loglia, who performed research work for Kahre, did not have intent to commit tax crimes. This interesting twist allowed jurors to still hear the argument that Kahre was justified to pay workers based on the face value of the coins. The U.S. Supreme Court had long before ruled, in the Cheek case, that a good defense in a tax-evasion case is a person had good faith in not following certain tax laws.<br />
<br />
“The Supreme Court said, if they don’t have criminal intent, then they are not guilty of tax evasion,” Hansen explained. “That doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay the tax, but it means you didn’t commit a crime and won’t go to jail for a felony.”<br />
<br />
In 2005, Loglia penned a paper that earned him an ‘A’ from his law school professor Jay Bybee (who just happens to also be a 9th Circuit judge) on the gold-coin issue and the separation of powers. His paper took the position that, under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5 of the Constitution, Congress alone had the power to coin money and set its value.<br />
<br />
Loglia’s position was that the judicial branch does not have this power. <br />
<br />
“The judge applied those old court cases, but we were still able to make the argument that Alex was not criminally liable because he believed in good faith in the use of the face value of the gold and silver coins for tax purposes,” Hansen said. “Loglia’s 100-page legal paper was great evidence for the jury of his good faith belief.” <br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.liberty-watch.com/volume03/issue08/coverstory.php">LIBERTY-WATCH.COM SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
Here is a video interview with Mr. Kahre and his attorney (below). The video includes government agents ramming through an open gate with military vehicles, and then targeting and smashing video surveillance cameras to conceal what is later determined as an unauthorized, criminal raid.<br />
<br />
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2VJ3son-ha8&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2VJ3son-ha8&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VJ3son-ha8">YOUTUBE VIDEO LINK</a><br />
<br />
The defendant, Mr. Kahre, brings up several critical issues in this battle for our rights, and that is "who" the IRS works for and where our taxes go. The problems surrounding this organization are much greater than can be explained in a couple of articles, and in the video interview, which is a brief of the case. <br />
<br />
Mr. Kahre puts it aptly in the video when he says that our own government created this problem, and our representatives within that government have turned their backs on us. This situation, unfortunately, leaves the helpless citizen to weigh risking his life, and those of the ones he loves to fight this criminal institution, or to suffer under the weight of a systemic problem that would take an act of God to stop.<br />
<br />
This second article is from educate-yourself.org,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
<b>IRS Suffers Stunning Defeat at Las Vegas Trial Concerning Coin Wages (Oct. 18, 2007)</b><br />
<br />
<i>Original title:<br />
Tax Questions Raised Regarding<br />
Gold and Silver Coins Used to Pay Wages</i><br />
<br />
Around noon on Monday, September 17th [2007], a Las Vegas federal jury returned its verdict refusing to convict nine defendants of any of the 161 federal tax crimes they had been charged with. The charges included income tax evasion, willful failure to file and conspiracy to evade taxes.<br />
<br />
The four-month trial centered around the family businesses of Robert Kahre who paid numerous workers for their labor with circulating gold and silver U.S. coins, and did not report the wages. The payments took place over several years, allegedly totaling at least $114 million dollars.<br />
<br />
On September 20, 2007, three days after the federal trial's dramatic conclusion, the Las Vegas Review Journal, reportedly under a degree of public pressure, ran its first (and last) story about the outcome of the trial. To this day, with exception of the single article by the Review Journal, no major media entity has published a news story regarding the outcome of this important federal criminal tax case.<br />
<br />
The censorship of this important news story is, unfortunately, not unexpected given the continuing, worldwide onslaught against the U.S. "dollar" -- specifically the Federal Reserve note variety, and the ever growing numbers of Federal Reserve Notes required to trade for an actual ounce of silver, gold, oil, or for that matter, anything.<br />
<br />
In short, this failed prosecution has coalesced and exposed truths our government desperately needs to hide from the People: the truth about our money, the truth about our (privately-owned) central bank, and the truth about the fraudulent nature of the operation and enforcement of the federal income tax system, the Internal Revenue Service. <br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
The article continues on the constitutionality of the Income Tax, as well as the intrinsic vs. face value of coins with regard to these court cases,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
According to defense attorney Joel Hansen, who represented co-defendant Alex Loglia, the primary "willfulness" defense was that the defendants believed they had no legal obligation to withhold, pay income taxes or report anything to the government because, in part, the nominal (i.e., face value) of the gold and silver coins is so small as to fall beneath the reporting thresholds set by the Internal Revenue Code.<br />
<br />
The Defendants also argued that regardless of the valuation of the coins for internal revenue purposes, there is no law that requires average American workers to file or pay direct, un-apportioned taxes on the fruits of their labor.<br />
<br />
The Government argued that the payments in solid gold and silver U.S. coins must be considered at their bullion (i.e., intrinsic full-market) value when considering the worth of the wages for purposes of the internal revenue code.<br />
<br />
Attorney Hansen cited two Supreme Court cases bolstering Defendant's monetary argument at the heart of the defendants "willfulness" defense.<br />
<br />
The essence of the argument is that under the Constitution Congress is obligated by law to mint and circulate such coins as demand requires, and must establish the value of coins as they are used as legal tender, but the coins' market value, arising as valuable personal "property," is a distinct, separate attribute of such coins, and is of no legal consequence if the coins are used as legal tender.<br />
<br />
In other words, if a worker is paid with such coins, his taxable "income" (if any) can only be the face value indicated upon the coin money paid -- i.e., $1.00 for a circulating silver dollar or $50 for a circulating gold U.S. coin. Not surprisingly, the IRS has never issued any public guidance regarding this significant issue.<br />
<br />
The first case, Ling Su Fan v. U.S., 218 US 302 (1910) establishes the legal distinction of a coin bearing the "impress" of the sovereign:<br />
<br />
"These limitations are due to the fact that public law gives to such coinage a value which does not attach as a mere consequence of intrinsic value. Their quality as a legal tender is an attribute of law aside from their bullion value. They bear, therefore, the impress of sovereign power which fixes value and authorizes their use in exchange."<br />
<br />
The second case, Thompson v. Butler, 95 US 694 (1877), establishes that the law makes no legal distinction between the values of coin and paper money used as legal tender:<br />
<br />
"A coin dollar is worth no more for the purposes of tender in payment of an ordinary debt than a note dollar. The law has not made the note a standard of value any more than coin. It is true that in the market, as an article of merchandise, one is of greater value than the other; but as money, that is to say, as a medium of exchange, the law knows no difference between them."...<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/IRSdefeatoncoinwages18oct07.shtml">EDUCATE-YOURSELF.ORG SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread348263/pg1">ABOVETOPSECRET.COM THREAD ON THIS CASE</a><br />
<br />
What we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg of the absolute criminality of our social institutions. Like Kahre says in the video above, our taxes are not going to better our society. There are homeless veterans that can attest to this. <br />
<br />
Every time a story like this surfaces, it makes me sick to my stomach that these are the folks who are in charge.<br />
<br />
What we are seeing right now is the beginning of the end of this tyrannical system, and the freeing of all of the souls who have suffered and died at the hands of the few.<br />
<br />
Do not ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.<br />
]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=310</comments>
 <pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:56:33 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Friday, April 25, 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=309</link>
<description><![CDATA[Project Camelot has just posted an update advising that we may be seeing terrific military or financial upheaval around the August to November time frame this year.<br />
<br />
In this same update, Project Camelot states that a very disturbing November 2007 Rense.com article on chemtrails, and a marketoracle.co.uk article dated April 19, 2008, entitled, "Why Gold Was Hacked" have been targeted by the powers that be and either removed or, in the Rense.com case, directing you to a "Server Not Found" error.<br />
<br />
I will include the text of the Rense.com article below, as well as links to the "removed by author" page at marketoracle.co.uk, the .pdf of that article, and a link to the Rense.com original article (as well as the "Cached" article). I have downloaded .pdf versions of both of these articles for safekeeping.<br />
<br />
First, here is what Project Camelot's update states about these recent events,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
24 April<br />
<br />
    • On 20 April we received a message from a veteran inside source, whom we've never met but have learned to like, respect and trust, to pay close attention to (and archive) this financial comment. Our source warned that it might not last long on the net, saying that "it reflects what the progression will be for the next 9 months.”<br />
<br />
    Yesterday, as he predicted, it was deleted "at the request of the author". <a href="http://projectcamelot.org/why_gold_was_hacked.pdf">Click here</a> for the original page as a PDF. Save it and forward it to your financial friends for their reference. Post the original text (still cached on Google) on your blogs. We are still working to understand the significance of the information.<br />
<br />
    Our source also advised that the "time scale might be escalating", spoke of Iran, and warned of financial melt-down later in the year (August-November). He said that things were "serious". Of considerable interest is that the same source hinted heavily to us, a few months ago, that this artlcle about chemtrails was accurate. We have now read it again, very carefully.<br />
<br />
    Almost everything we are hearing, both from sources we have reported and from others which we have not, tells exactly the same story of economic and geopolitical events to come.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
Does this look like fake rapture technology or what?<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
What Chemtrails Really Are<br />
By Carolyn Williams Palit<br />
11-9-7<br />
<br />
"The United States does not torture." --President George W. Bush<br />
 <br />
We are dealing with Star Wars. It involves the combination of chemtrails for creating an atmosphere that will support electromagnetic waves, ground-based, electromagnetic field oscillators called gyrotrons, and ionospheric heaters. Particulates make directed energy weapons work better. It has to do with "steady state" and particle density for plasma beam propagation.<br />
 <br />
They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by "zapping" the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.<br />
 <br />
More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there -- is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.<br />
Chemtrails are the medium - GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:<br />
 <br />
Chemtrails are the medium -- directed energy is the method.<br />
 <br />
Spray and Zap.<br />
 <br />
This system appears to be in Russia, Canada, the United States, and all of Europe. Exotic weapons can be mobile, stationary, land-based, aerial, or satellite.<br />
 <br />
It is an offensive and defensive system against EM attacks and missiles. It uses ionospheric particle shells as defense mechanisms [like a bug-zapper shell]* against missiles and EM attacks. That means they spray and then pump up the spray with electromagnetics. When these shells are created using the oscillating, electromagnetic, gyrotron stations, it "excludes" and displaces the background magnetic field. These shells can be layered one above another in a canopy fashion for extra protection from missiles. The chemtrail sprays have various elements in them like carbon which can used to absorb microwaves. Some of these sprays have metal flakes in them that make aerial craft invisible to radar. Spoofer sprays. Sprays like these can be used to create colorful, magnetized plasmas to cloak fighter jets.<br />
 <br />
There are satellite weapons involved. Activists are using meters and are getting readings of microwaves, x-rays, and some other kind of emission that they are not sure of, maybe a low-intensity laser.<br />
 <br />
They are also photographing gas plasma generation due to the heating of chemtrails by electromagnetics. The technical names for vertical and horizontal plasma columns are columnar focal lenses and horizontal drift plasma antennas. Various size of gas plasma orbs are associated with this technology. These orbs can be used as transmitters and receivers because they have great, refractory and optical properties. They also are capable of transmitting digital or analog sound. Barium, in fact, is very refractive -- more refractive than glass.<br />
 <br />
What does that mean? Someone or someones are very involved in unconstitutional, domestic spying and the entrained plasma orbs carried on electromagnetic beams can be used for mind control programming. The satellites can be programmed to track and monitor various frequencies on different parts of your body. These electromagnetic beams carrying the gas plasma orbs stick due magnetic polarity and frequency mapping and tracking to people's eyes, ears, temples, and private parts. A beam with entrained orbs carries pictures in each orb just like the different frames in a movie. It is a particle beam that is also a frequency weapon.<br />
 <br />
The satellites download holographic mind control movies, pictures, sounds, and sensations to people through this technology. The Air Force has stated in "Air Force 2025" that their goal is to develop virtual and augmented reality mind control. Depending on the how the computer is programmed or depending on the mood or intent of the person interfacing with the technology, you can be probed, bothered, gaslighted, frightened, manipulated, electronically raped, or tortured. It scans your brain frequencies and deciphers your thoughts. The satellites track you by mapping your bioenergetic signature [body biometrics] and constantly scanning an area to find you.<br />
 <br />
We are the lab rats for this technology and something is very wrong in the military or intelligence branches somewhere. Because developmental projects in government and military are often so compartmentalized, I suppose someone could be using and developing this technology secretly and without authorization. Then again, behavioral and mind control programs were an authorized policy under MKULTRA. Our country has a history of experimenting on its citizens. We are talking about satellite charged-particle frequency weapons attacking a person 24 hours a day. Psychotronic weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction by the U.N.<br />
 <br />
"HAARPs" can create earthquakes and can also x-ray the earth to find underground military bases, gold, or oil reserves. These ionospheric heaters can also operate as an over-the-horizon or under-the-ocean communications system. This system can control the weather or create disasters. Taken together with the aurora keyhole through-your-roof satellite surveillance system, Echelon electronic computer/phone sweeps, plasma-cloaked DOD Drug War helicopters and stealths, implants, and cameras on the street, it constitutes one, big global and space control grid.<br />
 <br />
These weapons involve beams. Two beams overlapped will couple into a particle-ion beam that will bounce off of a remote target and send a holographic image back to the satellite for remote spying operations. When you cross two strong beams, you can supposedly* create scalar energies. These energies can be used as untraceable weapons for nuclear size explosions or for defense. These crossed-energies can be used to cause a person's physical electrical system to fail or with a lower frequency, administer a kind of remote electro-shock. Visualize touching a positive and negative electric cable to each other on top of your head. Scalar energies can be utilized in hand-held military guns and on tanks. They can dud-out electronics or cause large, electrical blackouts. Scalar energies are practically impossible to shield against. You need lead, ceramics, and a deep underground facility to not be affected by these weapons. Or, you need to be up and above the field of battle.<br />
 <br />
People who are working on these issues hear tones and hums. If you hear persistent tones and static; have body vibrations, burning sensations, "bangs" to the head, neurological damage, or immune system damage; are hearing electronic voices or hearing the sound of a plasma; suffering from pains deep in your organs or constant headaches; or experiencing other anomalous activity then you may be being targeted by directed energy, mind control weapons. These weapons could be on helicopters, jets, stealth fighters, or on satellites. Directed energy beams and electromagnetic waves can be sent to you via hand-held devices or piggy-backed in on cell phone and satellite towers.<br />
 <br />
Is it possible that someone(s) are very afraid of coming famines and riots due to the ongoing, man-induced failure of the ecological system, and they are saturating the earth with chemtrails for large- scale, gas plasma mind control? Is this the last grasp for the world's resources? Or, are they just control freaks and money mongers? Someone would like to get to that oil under the melting [due to chemtrail-trapped EM heat] Artic. And, I guess the Third World is not a part of this system. I don't think that the developed nations are going to let them in on this either.<br />
 <br />
Any country that joins this NATO system will become mind-controlled and diseased due to the associated, intense, oscillating, electromagnetic fields, electromagnetic soup, and the poisonous, toxic chemtrails. Our DNA will break. We risk the earth's spin and tilt becoming messed up due to mucking around with the magnetic fields through this military technology. Maybe, it is already messed up.<br />
 <br />
It constitutes U.S. global domination via NATO and the erosion of civil rights. According to Charlotte Iserbyt and Al Martin, there are ex-KGB and ex-STASI advising our new Office of Total Information Awareness. They are the ones creating our new internal passports [national ID]. And under "The Treaty on Open Skies," we have overflights by Russian and German military. Who exactly is flying those plasma-cloaked craft that are seen all over this country and mistaken for UFOs by people who do not know about this aerial deception technology? Obviously, we have another "Project Paperclip" in the making. We can add the new thugs to the 2,000 Iraqi brought into country by Daddy Bush who are now living in Nebraska.<br />
 <br />
The elitist corporate government is going to hold the rest of us hostage with directed energy weapons in space, if the Policy for a New American Century group - PNAC - Bush and cronie think tank has their way, along with directed energy attacks against any country or citizen that they decide they do not like. These weapons can create climate war, weather war, mind war, cyber war, disease war, disaster war, and undetectable war. Taken together they can create economic war.<br />
 <br />
If this system is not stopped, it will kill billions due to aluminum and barium poisoning. It will kill billions due to crop failures and world-wide famine. It will cause heart attacks, strokes, and cancers. It will cause stillbirths, miscarriages, and infertility. The chemtrail sprays often have fungi, bacteria, viruses, dessicated red blood cells, crystalline substances, carbon, metal cations, lithium, other chemicals, heavy metals, and God knows what - probably smart dust, or nanocrap. Years of biowarfare testing on the American public is no big secret anymore. Spraying germs in the sky where they mutate due to the ultra-violet light -- brillant plan, my man. Are we acceptable losses or is this by design?<br />
 <br />
I know that many of the major players have big investments in pharmaceutical companies, GM seeds [seeds that can grow in an electromagnetic soup], weapons and directed energy development contracts, oil contracts, genetic research, and mind control research. Some of these people have had a familial history of financial and policy support for population control, eugenics, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Pinochet, Hussein, and various other dictators. Some of the major players were the masterminds of the death squads in Central and South America. They stand to make a big profit on our death and disease. Just take a look at Rumsfield and Tamiflu.<br />
 <br />
I assume that they know the dangers of this system and that they take care to stay in their shielded, air-filtered offices, homes, bases, and cars. I assume they take chelating substances to remove the barium and aluminum from their bodies and minds. If not, then they really do not understand the far-ranging implications of this destructive system. Congress may not understand just what a terrible weapons system and control grid they are funding.<br />
 <br />
As I understand it, Tesla towers attached to deep-earth, free-energy taps are to be created over the 10-12 magnetic poles and the GWEN system phased-out. Has this already been done? This should allow total control of the earth through giant, Tesla death ray-guns. This natural, electromagnetic earth was not meant to be an un-natural dynamo to power man's weapons or his utility companies.<br />
 <br />
Over-unity systems [Tesla devices]* are as of yet, another unexplored and probably not understood man-made energy. We should be very suspect of free energy. As we can see, the forms of man-made energy that have been created and used in the past have not been good for this planet. Maybe it is time to reconsider the options available to us through the development of crops for fuel, wind, solar, and water power. We need world-wide, different, more holistic, renewable, energy programs.<br />
 <br />
Is there any good news? Yes. There has been tons of particulate dumping through the spray operations for 8 years over the Americas, Europe, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, and from what I can find out, over Russia. And, what goes around blows around, right? So, these substances are probably actually global. It sure makes a ton of sense to spray poisonous elements in 24 NATO countries and let the substances be carried around the earth on the jet streams to poison yourself, your enemies, and all neutral and non-combatent countries. Talk about making more enemies.<br />
 <br />
The water, air, and soil of all of these countries is so saturated with metal cations that these weapons freaks should be able to zap and mind f--k each other quite well now and as often as they wish. Once they have clobbered each other with light-saber beams for a few years and razed and scorched sections of the earth, they may start to realize that this foreign policy will lead to a defective human race and a rotten economy.<br />
 <br />
Do you think they will have knocked some sense into each other by then and will decide that non-proliferation and arms reduction is the more civilized and mature direction to take in world affairs? I doubt it, cause only idiots would have developed horrific, planet-killer weapons like these. But, I'll bet the rest of the planet will finally rise up and tell these juvenile delinquents to quit playing with those rayguns right this second.<br />
 <br />
After further thought on Bearden + -- a big over-unity and free energy proponent of Tesla technology that makes energy off of boiling the ionosphere or stealing electricity from the mis-named "vacumn" called Life, I have decided that Bearden is telling us some, if not most, of the truth. Same for Eastlund.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:_YgvhJ9vUUYJ:www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm+http://www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us">RENSE.COM CACHED ARTICLE PAGE</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm">RENSE.COM ORIGINAL ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://projectcamelot.org/whats_new.html">PROJECT CAMELOT UPDATE PAGE</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://marketoracle.co.uk/Article4396.html">MARKETORACLE.CO.UK ORIGINAL ARTICLE PAGE</a> (NOW REMOVED)<br />
<br />
<a href="http://projectcamelot.org/why_gold_was_hacked.pdf">PDF FILE OF "WHY GOLD WAS HACKED"</a>]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=309</comments>
 <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:59:21 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>REDLIGHTS OVER PHOENIX 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=308</link>
<description><![CDATA[Just a couple of hours ago around around 8:00pm in the city of Phoenix strange red lights in formation went flying in the sky that could be seen for miles. Many people saw the event and there were multiple video records...<br />
<br />
<b>It Happened on April. 21,2008 at around 8:00pm above Phoenix</b><br />
<br />
<b>Here is a news report video</b><br />
<a href="http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/Phoenix_local_news_042108_new-lights-sightings.895be60f.html">phoenix local news</a><br />
http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/Phoenix_local_news_042108_new-lights-sightings.895be60f.html<br />
<br />
Here is an amature video posted on you tube of the sighting<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vthLVCMst6Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vthLVCMst6Y</a><br />
<br />
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vthLVCMst6Y&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vthLVCMst6Y&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
<br />
here is also a good article on the sightings<br />
<div style="text-align: left"><br />
<b>Strange lights reported in north Valley sky</b><br />
<i>by Erin Kozak - Apr. 21, 2008 10:13 PM<br />
The Arizona Republic</i><br />
Several Valley residents reported seeing strange red lights in the sky on Monday night and the cause of the lights remains a mystery.<br />
<br />
Arizona Republic reporter Anne Ryman, who lives in Deer Valley, reported seeing four lights in a square shape that eventually became a triangular shape. The lights were moving to the east and they disappeared one by one. She said the lights were visible for about 13 minutes at about 8 p.m..<br />
<br />
One north Phoenix resident, who wished to remain anonymous, said he saw four or five red lights lined up in a straight line and spaced apart evenly. The lights slowly moved east and became dimmer as the witness watched. He said the last light remained in the sky the longest. Then three jets came from the west and traveled in the direction of the red lights.<br />
<br />
An official from Luke Air Force Base stated that they do not have any aircraft in the sky tonight and that the lights are not part of any Air Force activities.<br />
<br />
The Deer Valley airport officials said that the lights were not from any aircraft at that airport.<br />
<br />
Ian Gregor, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration said that air traffic controllers at Sky Harbor Airport also witnessed the lights, but they do not know the cause.<br />
<br />
The incident is similar to the "Phoenix Lights" seen on March 13, 1997. Thousands of residents reported seeing a mile-wide, v-shaped formation of lights over the Valley. In that case the lights appeared about 7:30 p.m. and lasted until 10:30 p.m.</div><br />
<a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/21/20080421abrk-strangelights0421.html">Article</a><br />
<a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/21/20080421abrk-strangelights0421.html">http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/21/20080421abrk-strangelights0421.html</a><br />
<br />
Now on Ats this thread is getting some attention because of this sighting, a poster by the name of xniburux said that on the 22nd we should all look up and hope for a mass fly over, he somehow got word that it would happen then. Well the phoenix lights that just happened only a few hours ago!<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread346691/pg1">http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread346691/pg1</a><br />
<br />
the massive fly other thread:<br />
<a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread345719/pg19">http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread345719/pg19</a><br />
<br />
General thread on the lights: <a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350487/pg2&amp;flagit=350487">http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350487/pg2&flagit=350487</a>]]></description>
 <category>General</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=308</comments>
 <pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:21:07 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>Project Camelot: George Green : Messages for the Ground Crew</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=307</link>
<description><![CDATA[<b>My Opinion:</b><br />
There is a lot of fear mongering in this one, but I pay no mind to it, being prepared is more mental than anything else and I think most important. I think it is a matter of "manifest destiny" or in other words you get what you wish for. I wish for a positive and strive and strife for it and that is all any can do.<br />
<br />
What stood out to me the most was the cloning and how confident he was about the subject, so that is what captured my attention when it comes to what I have said about clones in a the past, specifically the different genetic make-up of them. so the clone portion of the story he tells is mostly why I posted it in relation to my story.<br />
<br />
<b><a href="http://www.projectcamelot.org/george_green.html" target="_blank">SOURCE STORY</a></b><br />
<b>Part 1</b><br />
<embed id="VideoPlayback" style="width:400px;height:326px" flashvars="" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=7649462083172014414&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> </embed><br />
<b>Part 2</b><br />
<embed id="VideoPlayback" style="width:400px;height:326px" flashvars="" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-3857561466573452656&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> </embed>]]></description>
 <category>Video</category>
<comments>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=307</comments>
 <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:41:13 -0400</pubDate>
</item><item>
 <title>WEDNESDAY, APRIL 16, 2008</title>
 <link>http://www.ufotimetravel.com/index.php?itemid=306</link>
<description><![CDATA[There seems to be a lot of activity right now with regard to religious, political, sociological, geophysical, spiritual, paranormal, and cosmic predictions, etc.; some from what I would consider credible sources, and much that is not.<br />
<br />
There is so much information being presented that it is actually overwhelming (something I think is definitely by design).<br />
<br />
I believe it's important to take everything coming our way at this time in a larger context. Typically, Godlike Productions (GLP) will post a battery of "predictions" threads that by their sheer number, questionable sources, and often contradictory or dissimilar information, are assured not to come to pass. At least this has been the case up until this point; possibly.<br />
<br />
So much noise is being made at the moment that that in itself may be an indication we're going to witness an event of some kind. Going forward, it may be prudent to take the amount/degree of chatter itself, rather than any specific message, as an indicator something may be on the horizon.<br />
<br />
With regard to the content of the messages, it's understood that some of the more negative predictions may be posted by individuals with real information, who hope to inform, and possibly prevent, alter, or delay the events predicted by posting that information. Mixed in there, however, are pranksters, and those who wish to muddy the waters.<br />
<br />
Typically, however, when there is a deluge of information like this coming out at the same time, from several different sources, one has to take note. It was the number of sources that prompted me to make this post today.<br />
<br />
In addition to this flurry of messages about April 17, and the time period surrounding it, was some unusual activity at the GLP website that occurred around the time a lot of these message threads were created (Monday, April 14). Sometime around 6:30pm EST (U.S. East Coast), someone hacked an administrator's account and began deleting many of the major threads, and threads dealing with these predictions/revelations. The hacker "seemed" the be deleting threads at random, but to me, if you are targeting specific material to which you don't want to draw attention, you would also toss in some unrelated threads to throw people off track.<br />
 <br />
What one poster, calling himself "Majestic," suggested was that comments he and others had made on "frequencies" may have hit a nerve with these secret, elite groups. The reasoning being that these groups, according to Majestic and others, plan to use technology to send sounds and images directly into peoples' heads to simulate some sort of spiritual experience (read "fake rapture," "Project Blue Beam," etc.). It might have just been a disgruntled hacker, or maybe it was more. The timing was just very conspicuous.<br />
<br />
Included in these messages is talk of a CIA assassination of the pope (which may or may not been presaged in Nostradamus' Quatrain 2.97), from <a href="http://leozagami.com/">Leo Zagami</a>, a recent Illuminati whistleblower, which, he says, will be blamed on the Muslims (read Iran) and initiate World War III. Zagami states this, presumably, in an email exchange with Benjamin Fulford that was posted in a GodlikeProductions.com <a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message534895/pg3">thread</a>.<br />
<br />
Here are some excerpts from the email exchanges between Zagami and Fulford that were posted at GLP,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
My powerfull friends of Project LUCIFER in the Russian Federation waiting for me if I dont get into the USA&#8207;<br />
Fra: leo young (leoyoung1999@yahoo.com)<br />
Sendt: 11. april 2008 07:10:34<br />
Til: fsb xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com)<br />
<br />
...The killing of the pope is near my dear friend , the war of all wars is soon to start .<br />
The black pope is coming and thats the start of ww3 .Israel and iran are going be over with soon and thats going to be the start of the war in USA and martial law...<br />
<br />
Fwd: 20th of April my challenge to the Vatican led NWO (articolo per il sito)&#8207;<br />
Fra: leo young (leoyoung1999@yahoo.com)<br />
Sendt: 7. april 2008 18:41:25<br />
Til: fsbxxxxxxx@hotmail.com<br />
<br />
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 19:34:32 +0100<br />
From: leoyoung1999@yahoo.com<br />
Subject: 20th of April my challenge to the Vatican led NWO (articolo per il sito)<br />
To: daxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.it<br />
<br />
The killing of the pope is arranged and there will be turmoil after this . The cia will do the act and blame it on the muslims ....then Iran will be the next target as they will blame iranian terrorist for this act ...and by then you know what will happen .<br />
<br />
its the end<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message534895/pg3">GLP THREAD LINK</a><br />
<br />
Russia has made clear its position on Iran with regard to the U.S. in the event of an attack,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
<b>Putin: A US attack on Iran will be considered an attack on Russia</b><br />
<br />
...<br />
<br />
A high-level diplomatic source in Tehran tells Asia Times Online that essentially Putin and the Supreme Leader have agreed on a plan to nullify the George W Bush administration’s relentless drive towards launching a preemptive attack, perhaps a tactical nuclear strike, against Iran. An American attack on Iran will be viewed by Moscow as an attack on Russia...<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/26/putin-a-us-attack-on-iran-will-be-considered-an-attack-on-russia/">SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
In addition to the assassination prediction, there are other numerous predictions for the time frame, beginning tomorrow, Thursday, April 17, through next week, including a prophesy by <a href="http://ronaldweinland.com/?page_id=5">Ronald Weinland</a> that he shared in a recent radio interview. Here is an excerpt from that interview,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
...Starting on April 17th, within 45 to 90 days, depending on people's reactions in the United States , it is going to determine how quickly the "second trumpet" is going to blow. The second trumpet is in port cities in the United States , like San Francisco and New york , the harbors and so forth are various areas, Texas , Houston Texas . When those weapons go off, then, what is followed by that will be weapons on land and the "third trumpet," and it just progressively gets worse, and worse, and worse, until we're no longer able to function as a nation...<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message534263/pg1">LINK TO EXCERPTED GODLIKEPRODUCTIONS.COM THREAD</a><br />
<br />
Ronald Weinland says he's been shown that a nuclear device would be detonated at the locations he indicated above. In his words, the "First Trumpet" will be blown on Thursday, April 17, and depending on how the world reacts to this event, the Second Trumpet will be blown. <br />
<br />
Ronald suggests that the Second Trumpet will be blown within forty-five to ninety days after this April 17 event, and that that Second Trumpet, in my understanding, will be these series of nuclear devices. Of course, Ronald sees a Middle Eastern country/countries as responsible for these detonations, but we know better, don't we? September 11, 2001 and the mountains of unanswered questions surrounding that catastrophe come to mind...<br />
<br />
A poster at GLP discusses Ronald Weinland in another thread at GLP,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
Majestic<br />
User ID: 411403<br />
4/15/2008 12:57 PM<br />
Report abusive post    <br />
April 17th -- The Real Issue<br />
    Quote<br />
<br />
Their is something a little different about Ronald Weinland.<br />
I believe this could be a crucial part of " The Plan".<br />
Using mind control technology i believe they have played the part of "God" and given this information to Ronald.<br />
This is not prophecy or truth, this is the basis for the implimentation of the Brotherhoods fake religious event.<br />
I do not think this day will come and go without event. This is the day they have chosen.<br />
His exposure, his wordings. The timing of it all.<br />
Many are going to be deceived. None more than Ronald Weinland himself. This will be enough to convince the Christians and many others.<br />
I and others have been speaking about what has already begun.<br />
They have the technology to put words and images in your head.<br />
They have spent years of secret study, development and deployment.<br />
The game has just stepped up to the next level.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message536110/pg1">GODLIKEPRODUCTIONS.COM THREAD LINK</a><br />
<br />
Majestic suggests that Ronald Weinland is the victim of the dark cabal's mind control technology. This seems more likely to me (and anyone who's been researching, and following along with whistleblowers, etc.), and if there is an attempt (or success in some form) of a nuclear detonation, then we are going to see an acceleration of contact with "groups of beings" who have been overseeing our race's "safe" progression. <br />
<br />
This contact will begin what countless ufo "experiencers", government secret program whistleblowers, and contactees, etc., have been maintaining all along. Ronald seems to be purveying the dark cabal's agenda, and not one which is in line with where the majority of our race is truly headed. Ronald is not an advocate of positive extraterrestrial contact, and doesn't even take this phenomena into consideration with his doom and gloom vision of the future. Ronald may live out that prediction, but everything I've researched and learned shows that Ronald's future is "tainted" with an ages old fear-based "message" and will not come to pass. <br />
<br />
If you see an attack on American soil you should have no doubt who is responsible for that attack. Secret elements of, or behind the U.S. government, buried deep behind the false facade we see on television, are becoming desperate, because they can see where things are headed. This appears to be a "final card" being played, but as has been said here and elsewhere, "if" they play this next card, it will immediately necessitate an intervention/contact scenario, and swift end to these groups. They cannot gracefully step down and relinquish control of the planet to the majority of this race, but instead will do everything they can to fight for what they "know" they are inevitably losing. They will be held accountable.<br />
<br />
Any "signs and wonders" need to be seen as machinations of this group; however, much discernment will be needed as other beings may be prompted into action if this dark cabal's programs move to the next level. These "ET" beings' response will be swift and undeniable, so it is imperative to be "aware" during these times. Hopefully, we will be peacefully progressing (I actually think this is more the case), than having a startling introduction to these benevolent ET beings, necessitated by ugliness here on the ground.<br />
<br />
Among the many predictions for this time frame is one presented by a member of Youtube who calls himself, "stonecut11". stonecut11 has posted a video of (presumably) himself in silhouette at Youtube, reading some sort of "announcement" from what looks like a regular notebook. stonecut11 says in no uncertain terms that our entire planet is about to experience something extremely profound.<br />
<br />
Here is the transcript of the approximately ninety-second video at Youtube,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
There is something I must tell the world.<br />
<br />
You are all about to experience something truly amazing.<br />
<br />
I will explain that in a moment, but first I must tell you about a certain event that will lead to that moment of magic<br />
<br />
There is a fake satellite containing an electro-magnetic pulse device in orbit as I speak.<br />
<br />
This will be detonated over the United States at a specific moment, causing a major power outage across the nation.<br />
<br />
I am not responsible for this, but I will tell you who is. Vladimir Putin of Russia ; and he will succeed, but only for a moment.<br />
<br />
At the moment of detonation you will see the evil in the world vanish right before your very eyes; and you will be amazed.<br />
<br />
You will also be welcoming back your ancestors. The only reason they died in the first place is because this is only a development stage for your civilizations.<br />
<br />
You don’t live here, you were only raised here. Your family tree was planted here some time ago; and each person has just enough time to show their true character.<br />
<br />
Knowing your true character and your true nature is necessary in order to determine the lifestyle you deserve.<br />
<br />
You will learn a lot more; but for now, watch for the great blackout that Vladimir Putin will bring upon you.<br />
<br />
You will see numerous unknown vehicles arriving to liberate the goodness of this planet.<br />
<br />
You will live forever.<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
Here is the video.<br />
<br />
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_nb90Nzc1wQ&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_nb90Nzc1wQ&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nb90Nzc1wQ">LINK TO YOUTUBE VIDEO</a><br />
<br />
It's strange that he seems to be reading from a notebook...Included at the Youtube page is some text that accompanies the video I will include below.<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
This world is like a classroom full of children with no superviser in sight. This has allowed each of you the freedom to show your true nature toward others, without fearing consequences from a superviser. <br />
<br />
Knowing your true nature is needed in order to properly place each of you in the lifestyle that you truly deserve. Most of you who are alive today will not experience death because there will be a very special occurence right after the device detonates. <br />
<br />
Do not be frightened by the words that I am saying. I need everyone to realize something about the life that you have known since you were born. It was design to allow everyone in your family tree to serve just enough time in this confusing and often negative world, to train the human race how to appreciate goodness when it happens. <br />
<br />
That is why there is a mixture of good and bad throughout your individual lives. If the bad did not exist in your lives, you would not know how to appreciate the good. Very simple!!! you needed to learn how to appreciate the good before you can enter the world truly intended for you. <br />
<br />
That world contains peace, harmony, and a caring leadership who will keep your life happy and convenient. Had you been born into that kind of world, you would not know how to appreciate it. <br />
<br />
Now that we know what everyone deserves, placing everyone where they truly deserve to be will be much easier. Your mind and your memory can be transfered very easily, and in a flash, you will wake up into a whole new reality here on earth. It is time for you all to realize just how magical this planet and your lives really are. <br />
<br />
I am taking over and there is not one military power on the planet that can stop me. we are doing things a little differently now, so I suggest that everyone listen very closely to what I say. Start sharing your riches with the poor because they are about to be the most important people in my world. <br />
<br />
My favorite people are the ones that lived difficult lives and they deserve the most of what I have to give. This is all right around the corner so start your sharing, start respecting, and start being friendly to others. <br />
<br />
The tables will turn and that is what the new world is all about. The new world is the same world that you know, but it is controlled by a different type of leadership. If you are trustworthy, you will govern your own life under my rule and I will not interrupt. If that is your case, then you deserve nothing less. <br />
<br />
You will be much happier in that lifestyle, but you had to be raised through this inconvenient process first or else you would take that special lifestyle for granted. Watch as I smash the enemies of peace wherever they are in the world. This is what the world is like when there is evil let loose. Now you can truly appreciate a world without it. We will now bring the evil to an end. <br />
<br />
I will be introducing someone very special to all of you. Someone you've been waiting your whole lives for. You had to live "without" him for a while before you could live "with" him. This way you can appreciate him. <br />
<br />
This has already been set in motion, so prepare yourself for the reunion of your family tree. This is all very true. As soon as america attacks iran, russia will detonate this device. After that, I am taking over. This world cannot be left unsupervised any longer. We are on guard, waiting for this event to happen, and it will happen. <br />
<br />
As soon as it happens, you will see numerous unknown vehicles in the sky. Do not be scared. They are your friends. For those of you who think this is a joke, it is not! No one has ever seen this type of magic happen, so do not be frightened by these words. The current cycle of death has nothing to do with what is about to happen, so do not think that everyone must die before entering. <br />
<br />
We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed in the blink of an eye. You will be the same physical person that you are now, only a little different. You keep your talents forever!!<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nb90Nzc1wQ">LINK TO YOUTUBE VIDEO</a><br />
<br />
What is interesting about stonecut11's statements in the video is that they indicate that Vladimir Putin will be responsible for an attack on the U.S.; and this only a month out from the time that U.S. President Bush hand-delivered a "serious letter" to President Putin, that an article states,<br />
<br />
<blockquote><br />
At the start of talks with Rice and Gates, Putin held out the hope of agreements but did not give specifics.<br />
<br />
"We can put a full stop on some problems in US-Russia relations and consider them definitively resolved," the Russian leader told his guests.<br />
<br />
Putin said he had received a "very serious" letter from Bush. "If we manage to reach agreement on its basic provisions, then we can state our dialogue is proceeding successfully," Putin said...<br />
</blockquote><br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Putin_hails_very_serious_letter_from_Bush_999.html">LINK TO SOURCE ARTICLE</a><br />
<br />
So where is the sudden turnaround here with regard to the U.S. and Iran? How can a conflict now arise? Leo Zagami seems to propose how this could occur in his correspondences I posted from above. This would have to mean that President Bush is either in collusion with Russia in some form with regard to an attack on Iran (i.e., the citizens are being played like a piano), or that the assassination of the pope (whether by the CIA or some secret U.S. black ops group, etc.), and subsequent findings ("planted" evidence or not) pointing to Iran might provoke an attack, forcing President Bush to violate the details of the letter he presumably presented to President Putin. <br />
<br />
At the moment, there is no reason to suspect an attack on Iran. The news reports that suggest that terrorist elements from Iran may be involved in the skirmishes in Iraq is not justification to enter an all out war on Iran. And the evidence of a nuclear weapons program in Iran has already been dismissed by the intelligence community as non-existent.<br />
<br />
What's strange in the above scenario, however, is the fact that President Bush even presented a letter to Putin, presumably outlining, one would surmise, resolutions for more peaceful relations between our two countries, only to be secretly involved in an assassination attempt on the pope that would lead to war. <br />
<br />
Why would Bush, anticipating this plan, present this letter so soon before this operation would be effected? Is it to "appear" to want to make strides, and the assassination would be "all the more unlikely" given Bush's friendliness with Russia? Or, is it because Bush would in no way be involved with this supposed assassination and he is being played/manipulated like the rest of us by secret groups that operate behind/within the government? None can tell...<br />
<br />
Are you having trouble following along? Me too. Trying to put all of these predictions and conversations into a larger context is pretty difficult; but this is an occupational hazard with regard to trying to sift through all of the information being made available. To me, it's important to try to take everything that is being released as "potentially" credible. One can never be too prepared; especially in the unprecedented climate in which we find ourselves.<br />
<br />
Taking all of these items together with what has already been shared, we can now assemble a semi-comprehensive list of items (some of which can be found at <a href="http://www.projectcamelot.org/big_picture.html">Project Camelot</a>) to be on the lookout for over the next day, and the years leading up to that magical date, 2012:<br />
<br />
-- <b>Fake rapture (AKA "Project Blue Beam") </b><br />
-- <b>Assassination of the pope/beginning of next great war</b><br />
-- <b>Attack on Iran, prompting Russia to detonate EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse Weapon) device via satellite - enter friendly ETs</b><br />
-- <b>Spontaneous spiritual event/<a href="http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=55&amp;Itemid=36">ascension</a> sometime between now and 2012</b><br />
-- <b>Mass flyover/mass landing by benevolent ETs</b><br />
-- <b>Arrival of a planetary body called by many different names, that will cause a geophysical (and/or magnetic) pole shift</b><br />
-- <b>The detonation of one or more weapons on U.S. soil (Hint: it won't be Muslim, or Middle-Eastern extremists, despite evidence that might suggest this), prompting an attack on Iran.</b><br />
-- <b> An <a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message535500/pg1">EMP device</a> detonates over the U.S. via a plane or satellite, not perpetrated by Russia, but which thrusts the U.S. into a total blackout, necessitating Martial Law (friendly ET's possible or not).</b><br />
-- <b>Barack Obama, George W. Bush, or Hillary Clinton will be assassinated, leading to Martial Law.</b><br />
-- <b>"<a href="http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=296&amp;Itemid=70">The Revealing</a>," the Illuminati (the bad guys) step forward and claim their role as divinely appointed "guides/overseers" of the human race, despite the fact that they've lied to, exploited, tortured, murdered, raped, oppressed and all but destroyed the human race all to serve their own selfish agenda.</b><br />
<br />
What I've heard about Project Blue Beam type scenarios is that these elite, secret groups using this technology may use every piece of electronics in our homes to transmit these signals; and that by getting rid of these electronics, the signals will no longer have a "carrier"; i.e., will not be effective.<br />
<br />
timedrifter has stated that any friendly ET arrival will be announced through radio, Internet, television, etc., but will be presented as an actual broadcast and not simply using those items as a conduit/carrier. This means that the friendly ETs, according to timedrifter, will present a clear message as a regular broadcast versus the "religiously" toned sights and sounds we may actually hear in our heads (i.e., "Blue Beam" stuff). The key difference here being that any government run scenario will have significant religious overtones, and the friendly ET messages will be of a different order entirely. I have been lead to believe that it will be easy to discern; although if/when these things come to pass, as scripture states, there will be those who cannot.<br />
<br />
It has also been stated that these advanced, friendly ET contact groups, of which there will be many races, will use verbal and telepathic contact; so th